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Post by I am nobody » Fri Aug 05, 2016 5:11 am

Reminder that the Crystal Judge is only here because of RU's gimmick and is now a "mafia wins lylo free" card.

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Post by Shad » Fri Aug 05, 2016 8:53 am

In some situatons, for 60 posts.

It could have town utility too.

Like if RU was a villager and he's convinced one person to vote with him he could unvote/CJ vote/vote to achieve the lynch and save town when it looks like in all probability he's the one going down.

I think it's more neutral than you think. Unlocks pretty late in the sequence. Basically benefits whichever faction has been more conservative with their spending.

But it still does give wolves an opportunity to lock the game wolfing in the open, and that's generically bad with or without an alternative town utility.[DOUBLEPOST=1470401585,1470401433][/DOUBLEPOST]Consider this: if I was a wolf I'd be afking right now and spam-PMing Tazy to make sure my purchase and CJ vote take place exactly when I use them. I can afford a Laser Pointer and Mountain Bike no problem.

Please note that I am not doing this. :P

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Post by I am nobody » Fri Aug 05, 2016 11:24 am

Not if you're wolf with RU. Then your options are lynching your partner or waste the CJ vote on me and have the lynch rejected.[DOUBLEPOST=1470410657,1470409865][/DOUBLEPOST]Or RU changes his vote and you both waste it on someone else getting rejected, I guess. Doesn't work until after I get voted.

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Post by Shad » Fri Aug 05, 2016 12:05 pm

I didn't consider you being able to stop a lynch on someone other than yourself, but even so, 3's a lynch, if you reject it we just re-hammer, no?[DOUBLEPOST=1470412984,1470412697][/DOUBLEPOST]At what point do you get to actually contest the lynch?[DOUBLEPOST=1470413103][/DOUBLEPOST]I guess you were on both wagons anyway so it's irrelevant.

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Post by I am nobody » Fri Aug 05, 2016 3:11 pm

I was assuming the CJ item was single-use and mafia wouldn't be able to re-hammer.

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Post by Shad » Fri Aug 05, 2016 8:29 pm

crickets[DOUBLEPOST=1470443194,1470443163][/DOUBLEPOST]Well I guess it's the weekend.[DOUBLEPOST=1470443244][/DOUBLEPOST]I'll take one big sexy Bullet Proof Vest tyvm.[DOUBLEPOST=1470443351][/DOUBLEPOST]Wanted to buy that first to see if it unlocks anything fancy, because we've already purchased peeks.

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Post by I am nobody » Fri Aug 05, 2016 8:35 pm

Whatever the unlock rules are, it doesn't seem like they're anything straightforward. Last update had two repeat purchases and unlocked two items, but the previous one with one repeat and one new unlocked nothing.

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Post by Shad » Fri Aug 05, 2016 8:59 pm

Well, I would imagine Tazy thought that selling a BPV would be a long shot in the first place, so if there's something really sweet in the mix I'm hoping this has an above average shot at unlocking it. :) [DOUBLEPOST=1470445152,1470444936][/DOUBLEPOST]Anyway it's official that if we don't lose with the lynch I ain't dying tonight. I'm a 100% safe peek, so either do it or commit to locking me in for the remainder of the game because there are 0 excuses to mislynch me now.

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Post by monstrman » Fri Aug 05, 2016 9:57 pm

I'm super busy with finals and final projects for my summer classes and I've got my game plan already

I could continue to post for more extensions to give us more time to get it right but we all know where my heart is set by this point I think

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Post by Shad » Fri Aug 05, 2016 10:27 pm

I'm fine with moving forward at the current deadline so long as a vig shot or day peek or something equally beneficial does not come available between now and then.[DOUBLEPOST=1470450017,1470449963][/DOUBLEPOST]Moving forward currently meaning lynching IAN and if his claim proves true lynching RU instead.[DOUBLEPOST=1470450073][/DOUBLEPOST]There's just too much inconsistency/improbability in what RU's saying vs IAN's side of the story, and I think both of them are fairly villagery so I'm going to have to give IAN the benefit of the doubt between them as things stand.[DOUBLEPOST=1470450477][/DOUBLEPOST]Calling RU "villagery" is kind of inaccurate.

More like "RUey" based on what I remember of last game irt tone/attitude. In a vacuum I'd find it somewhat scummy.

And there's something he never did that I kind of expected a wolf in his position to do by now.

I'm not remotely confident on one over the other based on my reads, and Occam's Razor says lynch RU based on the claims. It's one of those I would feel less bad losing this way decisions.

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Post by The Amazing Tazy Ten » Fri Aug 05, 2016 10:36 pm

NEW ITEM:

Receipt Blog- 40 Posts- Force any player of your choice to stay awake. They will then see every action performed tonight, but not who makes said actions.

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Current Posts:


Shad- 40
IAN- 15
monstr-10
Ernie- 9
RU-8

VOTES:

Random User (1): Monstr

I Am Nobody (1): Random User


With 5 players it takes 3 to lynch.

Day 5 ends on August 6th 10:00 P.M. CST

In Stock-

Bulletproof Vest- Block 1 kill on you- 90 Posts
Reset Button- When used during the day, the gimmick is forced to change. Any bonuses given from consecutively aligned gimmicks are not removed or added as a result.- 80 posts
Detective Hat- Investigate 1 person tonight- 70 Posts
Laser Pointer- Get the Crystal Judge to vote for someone (Warning: May result in strange circumstances. Do not use Crystal Judge to hammer.)- 60 Posts
Mountain Bike- Makes it so you go before anyone else in initiative tonight.- 50 Posts
Reciept Blog- Force any player of your choice to stay awake. They will then see every action performed tonight, but not who makes said actions.- 40 Posts
Alarm Clock- Extend day by 24 hours- 30 Posts
Spyglass- See who targeted you the night you use it- 20 Posts
Rolled Up Newspaper- Shrinks the remaining time left in the day down to 24 hours- 25 posts
Stink Bomb- Remove everyone's vote from yourself- 10 posts

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Post by monstrman » Fri Aug 05, 2016 10:47 pm

I guess we can test IAN but I mean he's telling the truth

unvote
vote: IAN

One more to hammer

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Post by Shad » Sat Aug 06, 2016 9:04 am

I still need 10 posts before you do.[DOUBLEPOST=1470488538,1470488475][/DOUBLEPOST]Erm, apparently I need 30 posts. That can't be right.[DOUBLEPOST=1470488645][/DOUBLEPOST]Yeah I have 155 posts, bought a 90 post item, now I'm down to 40? Mod error or some hidden wolfery?[DOUBLEPOST=1470488696][/DOUBLEPOST]Anyway if anyone hammers before this is resolved I will consider you an outed wolf and policy lynch tomorrow.

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Post by Erniewan » Sat Aug 06, 2016 9:20 am

I blame Tazy.

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Post by Shad » Sat Aug 06, 2016 9:35 am

I hope so, because I rather doubt I'm going to have the time for 30 posts today without straight spamming.

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Post by I am nobody » Sat Aug 06, 2016 9:49 am

Tazy probably had 40 in his head from the cost of the Receipt Button.

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Post by Shad » Sat Aug 06, 2016 10:44 am

Well 12 hours to DL. I'll go ahead and buy when I think I have enough and hope it counts if he's not around.[DOUBLEPOST=1470494400,1470493861][/DOUBLEPOST]Obviously if IAN is lying we still know one of monstr or RU are wolves and I can't die, so as long as Ernie doesn't get goofy and block me it's a win. If IAN passes the test and RU flips wolf I'm safe to peek because I won't be dying. If Ernie blocks monstr and there's still a kill we know monstr's town. Lack of kill doesn't make him a wolf because they can just holster.[DOUBLEPOST=1470494537][/DOUBLEPOST]Block basically leaves all 4 of us alive the majority of the time, at the expense of a potential town!monstr not getting a peek. I don't know if that's the best route or not.[DOUBLEPOST=1470494686][/DOUBLEPOST]The only bad scenario is if IAN's telling the truth but it's a wolf PR. In that case I expect we just lose, but Ernie will need to take a lucky guess on which of the two of them to block if we don't.

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Post by I am nobody » Sat Aug 06, 2016 10:55 am

Seems like mafia Monstr is the only way we end up with 4 alive, unless I'm missing something. Mafia Ernie has to kill me so there's no confirmation you're town, and mafia you has to kill me so there's no confirmation you're not town.

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Post by Shad » Sat Aug 06, 2016 11:05 am

Well. Say you're a villager, we confirm each other, is it monstr or Ernie? Or you're a wolf, Ernie and I confirm each other, is it you or monstr?

But I'm cellphone posting and might not be thinking this through thoroughly.

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Post by I am nobody » Sat Aug 06, 2016 3:24 pm

[USER=19345]@Tazy Ten[/USER] News on Shad's posts? We're down to ~6 hours here.

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