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Post by Shad » Fri May 27, 2016 9:13 am

I think you missed a bit earlier; I received his second message.

Easiest explanation is he got blocked the first night and then claimed something benign and wolves turned elsewhere. Less likely options are wolf who holstered the first night to make us think that or else something related to Ernie's role.

And again Ernie just needs to say whether he took any actions that might influence my results; doesn't need to claim.

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Post by Erniewan » Fri May 27, 2016 9:28 am

So I was asleep, but now I'm not! Looks like a ton has happened since I last posted, good stuff!

I am not the bus driver, but I do have a role that might explain why there are most likely only 2 mafia. However, I will explain this on Day 4 because we have enough on our plate, and it doesn't elucidate the current situation.

I want S1x to claim his full role before I vote him. There's a piece of the puzzle still missing, and I think it may have to do with him. Please don't quick lynch him just yet.[DOUBLEPOST=1464355723,1464355606][/DOUBLEPOST]Actually we're at L-1, could someone unvote until I get something squared away from S1x?

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Post by Shad » Fri May 27, 2016 10:09 am

Sure

Unvote

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Post by Erniewan » Fri May 27, 2016 11:07 am

Actually, I can't think of any "restrictions" that might explain this, especially since he would have claimed it the minute he was detected as scum: basically, I received Scarecrow's message last night. At first, I was thinking he could be a Nexus, and whatever targets him goes to someone else, but that doesn't appear to be the case unless someone else is a Nexus-granter and gave him a shield. Still might be good for him to claim his whole role before he's lynched.
If there's a redirector, he redirected SC to me (which seems absolutely pointless). If there's a bus driver, he switched S1x and me, and since I'm not mafia (proved by Shad on previous night), this didn't happen. [USER=37446]@Scarecrow[/USER] Are you sure you targeted S1x last night?

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Post by S1x » Fri May 27, 2016 11:20 am

The kill doesn't affect me if it's the only thing aimed at me that night. that's it.
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Post by Daos » Fri May 27, 2016 11:36 am

What is your role, S1x?

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Post by S1x » Fri May 27, 2016 11:53 am

abominable snowman bulletproof
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Post by Shad » Fri May 27, 2016 12:08 pm

So either Scarecrow is the second wolf and is lying in order to save his partner via redirection spec, or we're dealing with some really crazy night shenanigans and my peeks are probably useless. -_-[DOUBLEPOST=1464365214,1464365025][/DOUBLEPOST]I really don't think scum!Ernie's ever going to intervene on a winning POE and say "no no no S1x and I were swapped; I'm the red peek."[DOUBLEPOST=1464365259][/DOUBLEPOST]Basically Scarecrow's wolf equity just shot sky high if my peek on S1x is correct.[DOUBLEPOST=1464365294][/DOUBLEPOST]I'll think about it more later and see what he has to say.

We're still lynch S1x but let's wait a bit.

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Post by Erniewan » Fri May 27, 2016 12:21 pm

[USER=22447]@S1x[/USER] Instead of bite-sized defenses, could we hear some explanations/suspicions/conjectures from you? I mean your role is still suspect, but it makes some sense to put in an Abominable Snowman in this game. If you're Town, why don't you give us something to work with.[DOUBLEPOST=1464366097,1464365969][/DOUBLEPOST]P.S. I'm at work right now, will reread previous days when I get home. I just want to see this sorted out.

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Post by S1x » Fri May 27, 2016 12:30 pm

At this point I can only see either extreme Mafia redirection chaos, or something's up with Scarecrow. I'm still trying to figure out what would be the point of being dishonest about his target. There's a lot of "that would be so bad to do as Mafia they're probably not Mafia" stuff in addition to that, like the miller claim and dead jack of all trades claim.

Best guess is that it's a RU/Scarecrow team
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Post by Random User » Fri May 27, 2016 12:37 pm

Shortly after claiming JOAT I got a message that I was to become every ability I've claimed, though since I claimed nothing out of the list of acceptable claims I became a simple Vanilla. This role has been a bit confusing.

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Post by Erniewan » Fri May 27, 2016 1:31 pm

What was the list of acceptable claims for you?

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Post by Daos » Fri May 27, 2016 1:55 pm

That seems kind of strange since it would force a player to claim.

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Post by Random User » Fri May 27, 2016 2:06 pm

I would have to claim as cop, doctor, roleblocker, watcher, tracker, commuter, or bodyguard.[DOUBLEPOST=1464372376,1464372057][/DOUBLEPOST]Daos does have a point, it would force me to claim, and if I chose to claim a role someone else already had, I would look like scum. So I wonder if a role like this would appear in the same game as a miller. My role would probably throw the town off already.

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Post by Shad » Fri May 27, 2016 2:25 pm

[QUOTE="Random User, post: 1596961, member: 35827"]Shortly after claiming JOAT I got a message that I was to become every ability I've claimed, though since I claimed nothing out of the list of acceptable claims I became a simple Vanilla. This role has been a bit confusing.[/QUOTE]

So you didn't know you couldn't claim JOAT outright without losing the abilities?

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Post by Random User » Fri May 27, 2016 2:35 pm

I did know.[DOUBLEPOST=1464374071,1464374017][/DOUBLEPOST]I wasn't aware that after claiming something not on the list I'd attain the abilities of the roles I had claimed.[DOUBLEPOST=1464374112][/DOUBLEPOST]"The roles I had claimed" being limited to the ones on the list, that is.

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Post by The Missing Link » Fri May 27, 2016 6:35 pm

Vote Count:
S1x (2): Shad, Random User, Daos
Scarecrow (0): Daos

Not Voting (5): I am nobody, S1x, Scarecrow, Shad, Erniewan

With 7 players remaining, it takes 4 to lynch.
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Post by I am nobody » Fri May 27, 2016 7:03 pm

I'm still skeptical of a redirector or roleblocker just because of how weak the town roles appear to be.[DOUBLEPOST=1464390197,1464390133][/DOUBLEPOST]DP: That was old; Chrome somehow posted the saved message instead of what I'd just posted. Kinda still true, though.

Intended post: Can we confirm SC's D2 and D3 messages just to make sure there's not a mimic or something being used to fake a redirector?

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Post by Erniewan » Fri May 27, 2016 8:32 pm

I dunno if it's allowed to quote from a PM, but if SC says what he sent, I can confirm it.

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Post by Scarecrow » Fri May 27, 2016 10:33 pm

Someone is lying.

I sent, "Do you wanna build a snowmaaaaan? Because Shad doesn't"

Tell me how I could have known what March's role was? And why would I even steal it? It would no benefit to me whatsoever if I was playing scum. Doesn't make sense

Did I say I can only msg people if the msg has Frozen "quotes" in it? Useless role really. This role is just as unbelievable as March's ****.

I'm lost. I don't know who to lynch right now. Life is killing me too

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