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Post by Bad Dragonite » Fri Jan 27, 2017 10:40 pm

AHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA
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http://www.nydailynews.com/news/nationa ... -1.2957526

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NEW YORK DAILY NEWS
Friday, January 27, 2017, 2:05 PM
California is one step closer to possible secession.

Supporters of the so-called “Calexit” movement got the green light late Thursday to begin collecting the 585,407 voter signatures needed to get an initiative on the November 2018 ballot.

The group behind the proposal, known as Yes California, now has six months to collect and submit the signatures, according to California's Secretary of State Alex Padilla.

Yes California started back in 2015 but exploded with a groundswell of support — and the catchy #Calexit hashtag — in the days following President Donald Trump’s election.

‘Calexit’: Californians want to exit the U.S. after Trump's win


“California and America are different cultures, very different. Donald Trump never would have been a candidate here, not even a party nominee. Do we need more evidence than that?” Yes California spokesman Marcus Ruiz Evans told the Daily News Friday.

He argued California is an economic powerhouse that subsidizes dozens of southern and midwestern states that don't share its values. He said the Golden State’s own crumbling highways, bridges, levees and schools should get that money instead.

“We're pumping out billions to other states. That's colony status,” he said Friday.

The proposed Calexit ballot measure seeks to repeal provisions in the state's constitution “stating California is an inseparable part of the United States and that the United States Constitution is the supreme law of the land,” according to wording approved by the California Attorney General.

A look at secession attempts through American history

“We're absolutely excited,” Evans said. “A lot of people said this was unconstitutional. If it's unconstitutional, how come the Attorney General approved it?”

If the new measure qualifies for the ballot and passes, there would be a follow-up special election in March 2019 to ask voters if they want California to become an independent country.

Experts say the process would then require approval by the other states in the union, likely though an amendment to the U.S. Constitution.

Evans, 39, said he's not worried about that.

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“There’s lot of evidence suggesting the 35 states who all voted for Trump have very different values and don’t like California. They don’t like immigrants, don’t like accents. They don’t believe in LGBT rights, women’s rights,” he argued.


“If you already hate us and you don’t know we support you financially and you vote on emotion, we have the votes today,” he said.

Yes California’s president Louis Marinelli hails from upstate New York and was a registered Republican when he started the separatist movement.

The 30-year-old, who previously lived in Russia, is now a member of the fledgling California National Party.

Asked what the government of an independent California might look like, Evans said little would have to change.

“It's going to be whatever Californians decide, but probably not a lot has to change,” he said. “For everything the federal government does, there's already an equivalent state agency. Our governor already acts like a president, traveling to foreign nations, signing trade deals.”

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Post by I REALLY HATE POKEMON! » Fri Jan 27, 2017 10:43 pm

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Post by I REALLY HATE POKEMON! » Fri Jan 27, 2017 11:42 pm

Sounds like lots of Californians are salty.

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Post by Valigarmander » Sat Jan 28, 2017 1:17 am

It was dumb when Texas wanted to do it, it's dumb now. And as with Texas, the secessionists are a small minority, so nothing is likely to ever come of this.

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Post by Random User » Sat Jan 28, 2017 1:24 am

Unlikely to happen ever.

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Post by CaptHayfever » Sat Jan 28, 2017 2:36 am

It's a dumb idea, it would hurt both Cali & the rest of the US, it almost certainly won't happen, & one of the points of the Civil War was that the states don't get to do that anyway.

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Post by I am nobody » Sat Jan 28, 2017 6:36 am

“We're absolutely excited,” Evans said. “A lot of people said this was unconstitutional. If it's unconstitutional, how come the Attorney General approved it?”
Flawless logic.

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Post by Sim Kid » Sat Jan 28, 2017 10:27 pm

Nope. Sorry California - not going to happen.


Now as for a much less light-hearted response, California will not secede unless they bring Oregon, Washington, and Nevada with them because they're going to say "STOP LEAVING US BEHIND!" and force CO and New Mexico to go "@#$&!!" cause they can't be an exclave of Cascadia. :P

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Post by Calamity Panfan » Sun Jan 29, 2017 4:01 am

this **** is just stupid

like if you're against trump, fight against him in a way that actually matters (like the aclu and other such organizations fighting the immigration ban, or calling representatives and voicing your dissatisfaction with what is happening) and not some stupid **** like this that has no chance of actually happening. the usa economy owes a lot to california and california owes a lot to the usa economy. one cannot live without the other.
and that's the waaaaaaaaaay the news goes

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Post by The Amazing Tazy Ten » Sun Jan 29, 2017 6:53 am

They don't have water.

And I doubt America gonna give you any if you secede and constantly call them s**t while doing it. And no, taking it from the ocean is not a viable option. I don't care how many de-salinization plants you have.

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Post by ScottyMcGee » Sun Jan 29, 2017 12:45 pm

Try a nice taste of Calexit to go with your Brexit for a nice balanced breakfast of running away from your problems.
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Post by Sim Kid » Sun Jan 29, 2017 11:10 pm

[QUOTE="Festivus Ten, post: 1620377, member: 19345"]They don't have water.

And I doubt America gonna give you any if you secede and constantly call them s**t while doing it. And no, taking it from the ocean is not a viable option. I don't care how many de-salinization plants you have.[/QUOTE]


They apparently quit building them cause they were like "Wow, huge rainfalls. I guess we don't need 'em". Eat your words.

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Post by The Amazing Tazy Ten » Mon Jan 30, 2017 12:30 am

They still use more water than they can produce and need at least one state to make the difference up though.

They'd need a LOT of rain on an annual basis to be self-sufficient. One bad drought and they're in dire straights without at least someone to trade with, and they're gonna know California is desperate if that happens.

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Post by Marilink » Mon Jan 30, 2017 8:48 am

this is dumb, but it just made me realize

Was the Texas secession movement not called Texit? because that is one hell of a missed opportunity.
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Post by Deku Tree » Mon Jan 30, 2017 9:02 am

When Texas A&M left the Big XII, we called it SECede.

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Post by Marilink » Mon Jan 30, 2017 9:04 am

^Nice, that's good
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Post by Sim Kid » Mon Jan 30, 2017 11:50 pm

[QUOTE="Marilink, post: 1620470, member: 23215"]this is dumb, but it just made me realize

Was the Texas secession movement not called Texit? because that is one hell of a missed opportunity.[/QUOTE]

This was before "Brexit", so no.

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Post by Marilink » Tue Jan 31, 2017 4:10 am

^What I'm saying is that Texit should have been so obvious that it should have originated the "exit" thing.
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Post by Bad Dragonite » Tue Jan 31, 2017 5:17 am

It's because Texit was actually a bad idea so it couldn't pick up enough steam for a better name.
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