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Re: WoT 371 Started a Live Video

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Re: WoT 371 Started a Live Video

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Post by mushroom » Thu Dec 20, 2018 10:40 pm

playing Ocarina of Time on my N64

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Post by Marilink » Thu Dec 20, 2018 11:08 pm

I should do that again. That game is still great.

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Re: WoT 371 Started a Live Video

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Post by mushroom » Thu Dec 20, 2018 11:18 pm

i always loved the scene right after you leave kokiri forest the first time. the camera angles, sound effects, the expression on saria's face, just the general atmosphere. very...poignant.

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Post by Valigarmander » Thu Dec 20, 2018 11:36 pm

I like the scene where Darunia dances to Saria's Song for three minutes.

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Re: WoT 371 Started a Live Video

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Post by X-3 » Fri Dec 21, 2018 12:24 am

OoT was pure ATMOSPHERE. Sadly after the N64 they kind of dropped that.

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Post by DarkZero » Fri Dec 21, 2018 12:57 am

i know ocarina is divisive nowadays but i still think its pretty tight

the 3ds remake is the definitive way to play imo
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Re: WoT 371 Started a Live Video

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Post by Calamity Panfan » Fri Dec 21, 2018 3:09 am

it's really weird to think of oot as divisive. like it's not my favorite zelda and it might not even be in my top 3 of 3D zeldas but like, it's still a really damn good **** game. it's so good.

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Post by DarkZero » Fri Dec 21, 2018 6:18 am

yeah but ocarina's divisiveness isnt so much about its quality as it is "could you still call this game one of the best zeldas/video games in general?" which honestly is not a bad problem for a game to have at all
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Post by Marilink » Fri Dec 21, 2018 9:45 am

yeah, I don't think a lot of people will argue that OoT is a bad game except for EgoRaptor, and as much as I love what he has to say about MMX, I don't really put too much stock in his opinions overall.

I think a lot of the backlash against OoT is similar to the backlash against FFVII. Very few people will say it's a bad game, but there is a strong camp of people who think it gets overly-venerated. I get it--I've had so many conversations with people my age that have gone like "Oh you play video games? Man, I used to play Oakurrina of Time on my N64 and it is seriously my favorite game ever. My favorite characters are the Gorbans. But man the Water Temple sure does suck!!!!"

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Post by steeze » Fri Dec 21, 2018 10:38 am

Oot isn't a bad game by any means but I can definitely agree that it is overly-venerated. I think that could be applied to a slew of franchises in general across Nintendo, Xbox, PlayStation, and PC also. I've complained about this before in terms of a limited character pool. I just think developers take fewer chances. No one wants to drop big money and risk crash and burning, Not like they used to anyway. Mario started as a tiny little speck named Jumpman or something right? Why don't we have little guys hitting it big anymore? WHAT HAPPENED TO OUR SOULS AND EYES FILLED WITH DREAMS!

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Post by monstrman » Fri Dec 21, 2018 11:21 am

Y/N: A person is fully in control of their destiny

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Post by Marilink » Fri Dec 21, 2018 12:49 pm

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Post by X-3 » Fri Dec 21, 2018 12:52 pm

It's complicated but I'll have to say no.

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Post by MeowMan » Fri Dec 21, 2018 1:56 pm

i'd say mostly, but not entirely

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Post by steeze » Fri Dec 21, 2018 2:11 pm

Well, your destiny would be something that is beyond control. Destiny isn't something you choose rather a predetermined course of events with a cumulative predetermined outcome. Which makes this question kind of silly. The believers in destiny are more likely to alter their logic of the word itself and agree that they are in control of their own destiny. While people who don't believe in destiny would be more likely to disagree that you are in control of it just based on their belief in the logic of the word. Faith despite facts and facts despite faith.

From a philosophical point, our actions are entirely determined by our beliefs of what is good, and our beliefs of what is good are determined by our knowledge. To say that these are controlled into the future would be the belief in an entity or an agent that we could never hope to comprehend. Are you a man of faith or a man of science?

My answer is no.

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Post by DarkZero » Fri Dec 21, 2018 4:49 pm

"destiny" as a concept is a human construct that differs from person to person so you couldnt definitively define someones destiny in the same way you cant definitively define the best religion or the best flavor of ice cream.

so i think a person is in control of their destiny because they themselves get to define what that is.
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Post by Valigarmander » Fri Dec 21, 2018 6:03 pm

Anybody else remember Destiny's Child?

Oh, and it depends on how you define "destiny".

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Re: WoT 371 Started a Live Video

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Post by steeze » Fri Dec 21, 2018 6:13 pm

The believers in destiny are more likely to alter their logic of the word itself and agree that they are in control of their own destiny.


@HarkZero Everything as a concept is a human construct on planet earth because we're the only ones who can contemplate our own existence. The meaning and definition of a word can't be ambiguous otherwise words wouldn't have definitions (with a few exceptions, this not one of them.) I didn't define someone's destiny. I defined what that word meant in our language. You can alter the meaning of the word to suit your beliefs, that's fine but all your doing is acknowledging your belief in destiny and my point.

Nothing wrong with having faith.

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Post by DarkZero » Fri Dec 21, 2018 6:17 pm

thats fair. tbh i really dont have a stake in this discussion since i really dont give the concept of destiny much thought one way or the other
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